> First, all of the
>responses, except for Bob's initial response acknowledging my
>invitation, have avoided me as the source and a relevant member in
>the inquiry. Aside from being in poor taste and rather adolescent,
>it illustrates the role of denial and repressions and possibly
>oppression at work in the bandwagon. Recall that in the bandwagon
>grid, the leader preempts all of the elaboration. Bob was immediately
>heralded as brilliant after very loosely suggesting some questions.
"the
>responses, except for Bob's initial response acknowledging my
>invitation, have avoided me as the source and a relevant member in
>the inquiry"
You must be joking. (Or, in more polite terms, _I_ wouldn't have drawn that
conclusion from the evidence available to both of us.)
Look, I'm sick to death of this thread: the well-meaning
intellectualisation among those who seek to respond to Bill (anything to
avoid a fight?),
the self-pity in Bill's own effusions:
>Bob was immediately
>>heralded as brilliant after very loosely suggesting some questions.
No he _bloody well wasn't_, Bill, and you, I, we, all know it: if we read
the various contributions with honesty and (increasingly stretched-out)
patience.
All that happened is that a few people agreed with him, some disagreed, and
most just wasted bandwidth trying in a very honest way to progress a
discussion that in my view is becoming increasingly pointless.
I _will not_ have you laying your idiosyncratic construing: (I quote again)
>Bob was immediately
>heralded as brilliant after very loosely suggesting some questions
on me.
(Don't you _dare_ pick me up on "idiosyncratic construing", either, or I'll
go join the social constructionists immediately.)
Fuelled by enormous bitterness on your part (and I still don't understand
what caused it, but reading between the lines of some of your articles,
there must have been _some_ good reason, albeit, it seems, a long long time
ago), this whole thread seems to be heading nowhere. ***
Look, Bill, stop moaning! And everyone else, stop playing games!
Devi Jankowicz
*** There's a Polish saying about pointlessness,
"przelewanie z pusta w prozne"
or, loosely translated,
"pouring vacuum from the empty into the vacant"
That's what this thread has become.
(Right, now, quick, Queue for Despatch before I change my mind...)
*****
Nope, I won't change my mind. I've just caught up on Bill's latest:
>The bandwagon is now closing ranks and the shunning of
>Bill Chambers is becoming more public. Bob Neimeyer moves
>to silence my dissent by trying to take me off line with him
>where he can promptly dismiss me, as he and others have
>done for years. This is a type of shunning. Yesterday Mancuso
>made less than subtle suggestions that the folks on the net
>just not read my mail. This is shunning.
I have never read a more skewed interpretation of evidence available to one
and all. Unbelievable, and destructive of any inclination I might have had
towards sociality with respect to Bill.
Analysis and, yes, criticism labelled as "silencing of dissent", Bill? Oh
come on!
Devi Jankowicz
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